🚫 DEBUNKED 🚫 VedKaBhed - Scientific Errors in Vedas Part I

Namaste 

Going to be debunking this entire site by mainly showing how the translation the site uses is unreliable/false and then showing real verse and also using other sources to debunk this sites claims but the entire site 

(https://vedkabhed.com/index.php/2014/05/14/scientific-errors-in-vedas-part-i/)

Will get debunked in this blogpsot

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CLAIM - 

Atharva Veda 6.77.1 “The heavens have stood, the earth has stood, all creatures have stood. The mountains have stood upon their

foundation, the horses in the stable I have caused to stand.” Tr. Maurice Bloomfield

CLAIM -

 Atharva Veda 6.44.1 “The heavens have

 stood still, the earth has stood still, all creatures have stood still. The trees that sleep erect have stood still: may this disease of thine stand still!” Tr. Maurice Bloomfield

DEBUNK - https://vedicveracity.blogspot.com/2024/05/debunking-myth-that-earth-is.html

This also shows how Maurices translations are false thus debunking his translations and the verses given in the claim

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CLAIM -

 “Rig Veda 10.149.1 Savitar has fixed the earth with supports ; Savitar has fastened heaven in unsupported space…

DEBUNK - 

This translation is made by HH Wilson who's been debunked by "https://www.creationmyths.org/rigveda-10-129-indian-creation/rigveda-10-129-indian-creation-3-h-h-wilson-translation.htm"

So here's the real verse -

It's not our problem if you guys don't know about metaphor and literary devices. Get some knowledge first

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CLAIM - 

Nirukta 10.32 Savitar caused the earth to be fastened with supports. In the supportless atmosphere Savitar has made the heaven firm…

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Atharva Veda 13.1.6 …Rohita with his might hath established Earth and Heaven.

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This "CLAIM"  translation is also false as it's by Griffith 

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 Rig Veda 10.89.4, Sam Veda 4.1.5.8 Indra hath fixed [Stopped] the earth and heaven as with an axle…

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Real verses

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Yajur Veda 5.16 pastures, fair to do men service. Both these worlds, Vishnu, hast thou stayed asunder, and firmly fixed the earth with pegs around it.

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Yajur Veda 32.6 By whom the heavens are strong and earth stands firmly

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first of all, this translation is false

And thus the real translation is 

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CLAIM - 

Rig Veda 3.30.4 …the heaven and earth

and the mountains stands immoveable.

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Rig Veda 10.173.4 4 Firm is the sky and firm the earth, and stedfast also are these hills. Stedfast is all this living world, and stedfast is this King of men.

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False translation as it's by Griffith

Real Verse here 

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CLAIM - 

Rig Veda 1.59.2 The forehead of the sky, earth’s centre, Agni became the messenger of earth and heaven.

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Griffith translation so it's automatically false as I've listed above a site debunking his distranslations 

Real Verse 

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Rig Veda 1.115.5 In the sky’s lap the Sun this form assumeth that Varuna 

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Griffith translation 

Real Verse -

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Yajur Veda 33.38 In the sky’s lap the Sun this form assumeth that Varuna and Mitra may behold it…

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Griffith translation 

Real Verse - 

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CLAIM - 

Yajur Veda 15.64 On the sky’s back may Parameshthin set thee…

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False translation by Griffith

Real Verse -

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CLAIM -

Atharva Veda 1.7.32 Be reverence paid to him, that highest…Brahma who made the sky to be his head.

DEBUNK -

Griffith translation/False translation 

Real Verse -

On other sources it also says no verse like that exists but either way, we know that Griffiths translations were purposefully made false which is why his translations get debunked automatically so either way the claim is debunked

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CLAIM - 

"Vedas also says the Sky has a Daughter"

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This is metaphorical as Vedas are highly metaphorical

"Personification and Metaphor: Vedic hymns often use personification to describe natural phenomena. For example, the sky (Dyaus) and the earth (Prithvi) are sometimes depicted as parents, with other deities or elements as their children. This poetic device should not be taken literally." - ChatGPT

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CLAIM - 

"Earth is supported by a Pillar"

DEBUNK - 

https://vedkabhedexposse.blogspot.com/2023/07/scientific-error-in-vedas-debunked-part.html?m=1

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CLAIM - 

Atharva Veda 4.11.1 The Bull supports the wide-spread earth and heaven, the Bull supports the spacious air between them. The Bull supports the sky’s six spacious regions: the universal world hath he pervaded.

"The Term Vrshab is literally translated as Bull, Shri Ram Sharma Acharya says the same thing in the header of Athara Veda Kanda 9, Sukta 4. But Hindus prefer to translate Vrshab as Sun. Let’s see some verses which makes unscientific claim about Vrshab,"

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Griffith translation/False translation 

Real Verse - 

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CLAIM - 

"Sun Rises from the sea"

DEBUNK - 

https://vedkabhedexposse.blogspot.com/2023/07/scientific-error-in-vedas-debunked.html?m=1

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CLAIM - 

"HEAVEN IS NEAR THE EARTH"

Atharva Veda 4.14.3 From earth’s high ridge to middle air I mounted, and from mid-air ascended up to heaven

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Griffith translation/False translation

Anybody who has the IQ greater than of a Pig 🐷 can see this is metaphorical but those illiterate ughh..well...

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CLAIM - 

Atharva Veda 10.8.18This gold-hued Haiisa’s wings, flying to heaven, spread o’er

a thousand days’ continued journey. Supporting all the Gods upon his bosom, he goes his way beholding every creature.

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Griffith translation/False translation 

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CLAIM - 

Atharva Veda 19.27.3-4 Three are the earths, they say, and three the heavens, three are the atmospheres. Three vaults of heaven, and three seas, three bright, three stationary ones

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[Maurice] Atharva Veda 6.8.3 As the sun day by day goes about this heaven and earth… [Griffith] Atharva Veda 6.8.3 As in his rapid course the Sun encompasses the heaven and the earth…

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We also know both translations are false with the stuff I've put above and this is reliable 

यथेमे (yatheme) = Just like

द्यावापृथिवी (dyāvāpṛthivī) = Earth and Heaven

सद्यः (sadyaḥ) = Immediately

पर्येति (paryeti) = Reaches

सूर्यः (sūryaḥ) = Sun

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CLAIM - 

[Griffith] Atharva Veda 6.12.1 As the Sun goes round the heaven, have travelled round the Serpents’ race… [Maurice] As the sun (goes around) the heavens I have surrounded the race of the serpents…

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Rig Veda 1.35.9 ”The gold-handed, all-beholding luminary travels between the two regions of heaven and earth, dispels diseases, and this, verily, is known as the sun, and it finally overspreads the sky, extending from the dark interspace to the celestial region” Tr. SatyaPrakash Saraswati.

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Rig Veda 1.35. 9 “The sun moves in its own orbit but holding earth and other heavenly bodies in a manner that they do not collide with each other through force of attraction - Sanjeev Newar

And previously we've seen that this mans "Tr. SatyaPrakash Saraswati" are false as he's been wrong before thus his translations also being false and the one listed above being the true one 

Rig Veda 1.33. 8 says earth was encircled which confirms the round shape of the earth. Adorned with jewels, they encircled the earth, but Indra overcame them with the rising sun.

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Nirukta 7.23 The sun having first revolved towards the northern hemisphere, a person holds a polished (piece of) white copper, or crystal, focusing the sun-rays in a place where there is some dry cow-dung, without touching it… Now (had VaisVauara been the sun), there would have occurred expressions relating to VaisVanara in those same hymns and shares which are assigned to celestial deities, i.e. Savitr, [Surya], Pusan, Visnu, and [the VisVedevas.] And they would have praised him by (attributing to him) the functions of the sun, as thou risest, thou settest, thou revolvest, &c.

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Rig Veda 8.7.8 They, who by their might open a radiant path for the sun to travel, they pervade (the world) with lustre.

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Rig Veda 6.48.21 They whose high glory in a moment like the God, the Sun, goes round the space of heaven…

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Atharva Veda 6.44.3 Thou art the urine of Rudra, the navel of amrita (ambrosia)…

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 [Maurice] 2.27.6. O Rudra, whose remedy is the urine… [Maurice] Atharva Veda 6.57.1-2 This, verily, is a remedy, this is the remedy of Rudra, with which one may charm away the arrow that has one shaft and a hundred points. With gâlâsha (urine) do ye wash (the tumour), with gâlâsha (Urine)do ye sprinkle it! The gâlâsha (urine) is a potent remedy: do thou (Rudra) with it show mercy to us, that we may live!

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As we know false translation and for first part of the claim he doesn't even give proper reference

Real Verse - 

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CLAIM - 

"SUN MOVES IN A CHARIOT PULLED BY HORSES"

DEBUNK - 

https://vedkabhedexposse.blogspot.com/2023/07/chariot-with-seven-horses-pulling-sun.html?m=1

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CLAIM - 

"HEAVEN/SKY IS SUPPORTED BY PILLARS"

DEBUNK - 

https://vedkabhedexposse.blogspot.com/2023/07/scientific-error-in-vedas-debunked-part.html?m=1

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CLAIM - 

Rig Veda 1.25.7 He knows the path of birds that fly through heaven (space), and, Sovran of the sea, He knows the ships that are thereon.

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Griffith translation/False translation 

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CLAIM - 

Rig Veda 5.59.7 Like birds of air they flew with might in lengthened lines from heaven’s high ridges to the borders of the sky

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CLAIM -

"SOLAR ECLIPSE IS CAUSED BY A DEMON"

DEBUNK - 

https://vedkabhedexposse.blogspot.com/2024/03/according-to-vedas-is-solar-eclipse.html?m=1

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CLAIM - 

Atharva Veda 18.4.89 Within the waters runs the Moon

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"Same is repeated in Yajur Veda 33.90 and Rig Veda 1.105.1"

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CLAIM - 

Rig Veda 2.17.5 Fast he (Indra) upheld the earth that nourisheth all life, and stayed the heaven from falling by his wondrous skill.

CLAIM - 

”…He controls the earth that nourishes us all, and with his skill, stays the heaven from falling”. Rig Veda 2.17.5, Tr. SatyaPrakash Saraswati, Vol 4, page 965

DEBUNK - 

False translation/Griffith translation

And the second claim is also false as I've shown

Real Verse - 

This says with Indra's creation/support he has prevented the sky's from falling and this creation/support which prevents the sky from falling

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CLAIM -

Atharva Veda 11.3.33 … With Heaven and Earth as ears, with these I have eaten it…

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Atharva Veda 11.3.11 This earth, is the cooking pot, and sun the lid of the Odana (rice) as it is cooking

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Metaphorical 

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Rig Veda 1.65.2 The Gods approached the ways of holy Law; there was a gathering vast as heaven itself. The waters feed with praise the growing Babe, born nobly in the womb

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Atharva Veda 5.23.5 Eastward the Sun is mounting, seen of all, destroying thing unseen, Crushing and killing [with our spells] all the worms invisible and visible.

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Atharva Veda 2.32.1. The rising sun shall slay the worms (which lives on earth), the setting sun with his rays shall slay the worms that are within the cattle!

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